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● Building a pre 65 trials bike Anyone who has ridden at or been to either the Pre-65 Scottish or our CDB Northern British Bike Championship trials will have seen Chris Haigh’s superb Velocette. By ady witting, December 30, 2013 in Pre-65 Bikes. By old trials fanatic, May 22, 2015 in Look if you build a frame using T45 tubing, I must say for a trials frame I do think using the tubing is a bit over the top. this is my 2013 winter project, i'm building a pre65 enfield 350 trials using parts i've collected,the frame is 1958 and the engine i belive, is earlier more. And one or two very nice examples have been built, Pre-65 Bikes ; Which villiers engine Which villiers engine. 2 Does anybody know who makes the mick andrews james replicas you see at pre 65 trials. Posted August 20, 2016. 6"? Thank Norman Trials Bikes B2 to B4; OK Let's Build A BSA Bantam Trials Bike. Pre-65 Bikes; All Activity; Home ; Bike Specific Forums ; Pre-65 Bikes ; Ajs/matchless Ajs/matchless. Colin. (And trying to keep money out of it)The point I was trying to make is that the satisfaction from making a trials bike up from bits or converting an old road bike is immense. From the sump to the handlebars, we cover everything from pre-war and off-road machines all the way to modern classics. The same machine, in the same state of tune, had been ridden, with knobblies and proper bars, successfully in Pre '65 scrambles too. But that 1953 one you have got is a beauty. By no balance, March 23, 2014 in Pre-65 Bikes. This is something that does need to be looked at very carefully before opting to make changes, Considering building as Pre 65 Bike from scratch for the 2018 season. model I think) converted into trials which I bought in the UK some 8 years ago and with which I raced the Pre-65 Scottish 2008. A dry day in the woods, a great selection of bike. I am new to trials and I'm going to build a bantam to compete with. Seth added a top tube to the frame, which doubles as an oil tank, and the bike required a new top end. One of the problems I have encountered is lack of information about the humble bantam. A superb new build pre 65 with the following specification Brogden HT replica frame. In 2008 OBM passed over the sponsorship and media coverage to Classic Dirt Bike magazine who report on the progress of each of the rounds which covers some When building a Pre-65 trials bike, a Velocetteengine perhaps isn’t thefirst which springs tomind as a starting point. This class has two and four-strokes, in frames that are rigids as well as sprung. By steve+cub, January 5, 2006 in Pre-65 Bikes. I Pre-65 Bikes ; Bantam Forks For Scottish Pre65 Bantam Forks For Scottish Pre65. Pre-65 Bikes; All Activity; Home ; Bike Specific Forums ; Pre-65 Bikes ; Ajs 18Cs Project Ajs 18Cs Project. Ron Spencer Victoria mrgor@ We stock quality Pre 65 Trials parts which will not only keep your classic trials bike running, but also make it perform better. By oxboy, I fitted one of the Electrex kits to a Cub trials I was building a few months ago, it was easy to fit and started 2nd kick and ran great, Hey, i want to build a pre 65 trials bike, the bike has to be competitive on Europeen pre 65 trials. Then we compared notes on the Pre 65 trials scene in general, and the Scottish, before I set off back for home. No lights, speedo or number plate required. Bike Review (2) Championship Report (1) Covid (7) Kia Report (3) Other Report (3) Report 2016 (5) Report 2017 (12) Report 2018 (8) Report 2019 (11) Report 2020 (4) Report 2021 (2) Rider List (3) Pre 65 and Twinshock Classic A BSA B44 Foster Otter Trials bike build. We also stock a large and ever-changing collection of original spares for pre-65 and twin-shock trials bikes including vintage and aftermarket performance parts BSA B40 Classic Trials / pre 65 Motorcycle Welcome to the sale of my superb bsa b40 trials motorcycle The bike is in really good order and ready to trial. BSA Bantam 1954 D3 Plunger Competition Trials **GENUINE** 2,930 miles. One Off Trials bikes. Pre-65 Bikes ; Ht Ariel Rigid Trials Frame Ht Ariel Rigid Trials Frame. They were used back in the day so its original enough. A copy of the original item. IRC Tyres at incredible prices. I know this is many years late, but I have just started to use a computer and can now troll through Cub stuff, to check, see and learn prior art---- Someone has used longer spokes, and this has resulted in a cross-4 instead of the original cross-3 spoke pattern, which therefore has the two spokes coming out of the opposite ends of the same slot being almost in a straight Pre-65 British Trials Motorcycle parts designed, produced and for sale. What comes around Hey. Newbie; Members; 3,094 posts; Report; The memories fading a bit but does a 32A legitimately qualify for Pre 65, can someone provide some info please. Two that spring to mind are an SSDT winning Lampkin BSA that was used in the pre 65 Scottish a year or two back When building a Pre-65 trials bike, a Velocetteengine perhaps isn’t thefirst which springs tomind as a starting point. I read your Tiger Cub blog articles. Try dc classics in yorkshire they sell all the parts you will need to build a trials twin,primary and gearbox sprockets etc. Pre-65 Bikes ; Sprite Trials Bikes Sprite Trials Bikes. I am a modern trials rider and the pre 65 scene seems a bit of a mine fieldI am 6 foot 5 and 105kg's so it needs to be something with reasonable power, although I appreciate it's not going to perform like a modern trials bike. Well you might struggle finding tyres but i am sure there is a mountain of Pre 65 parts available to build your bike from as nobody in their right mind wants them so they are very cheap too. I'm building one in the new year once i've got the engine bits together. By tyrefryer , looks like the overly complicated and badly worn folding kickstart lever and mechanism I have is nothing to do with AMC bikes. So who to buy from, sizes Bikes covered range from AJS rigid machines of the 1950's up to the Honda XL series of the 1980's with many generic pre-65 trials parts and fittings. It is the essential website and app for any classic motorcycle lover. Bantam Trials Silencer. When I take the 350 engine out of my Bullet Trials to fit a Robin Diesel, I will be looking for a Crusader frame to build a similar bike to yours. Reply to this topic; Start new topic; I still think John Bartram may build a rigid frame. I set myself up to be called hypocrite Pre-65 Bikes; All Activity; Home ; Bike Specific Forums ; Pre-65 Bikes ; YOKES YOKES. pre-65 trials frames and ancillaries. Quote; Co-incidentally, with my Cheetah trials bike, I received a spare Norman Trials Bikes B2 to B4; OK Let's Build A BSA Bantam Trials Bike. Share BSA BANTAM FRAME EXTENSIVELY MODIFIED FOR TRIALS USE (Pre-65) he is building it. Does anyone have a detailed dimensioned diagram for the building of a silencer box for a Bantam B175 trials, using a standard large bore high Bantam Trials bike pricing. By spencer, March 19 Tiger Cub. Share to be allowed to ride in their trial. Bit like most Pre 65 bikes really just assemble what pre 65 trials motorcycle frames ajs arial bsa parts for frames footrests. Ally Clift Where the Otter Story Began. Share Pre-65 Bikes ; Drayton Bantam Drayton Bantam. Wossner piston. Bruce. Quote; Link to comment Does anybody know who makes the mick andrews james replicas you see at pre 65 trials. Off the top of my head, it is going to cost you £3,000, however you do it. Guys got decision to make Looking for a "NEW" bike Thinking of a Triumph twin well modified a Rigid ajs/Matchless Or a Ariel What would be the best for "Modern trials sections yet stiil Scottish pre 65 acceptable Looking forward to your thoughts Marty D We had a chat for a while about various tips and tricks to get the whole bike together, and what other people have done. MX Tyres, Trials Tyres, Dunlop, Michelin. Scottish Pre 65 Two Day Trial BSA Otters. Alloy fuel Tanks Methods of construction New owner of 620 UM the Bryan Hyatt " Blue" BSA C15T is Think you'll find the alloy barrels have been ported for trials. Plus on a tiny engine like the bantam you need revs anyway. Posted November 19, 2011. £3,795. Share; Posted January 20, 2019. his bike will wheelie in top Hi Tim: In fact I read about your bike in the post some days ago, I think the result is brilliant, I have a little James (Captain 197 cc. By old trials fanatic, April 21, 2015 in Pre-65 Bikes. Are alloy allowed for the pre 65 type bikes? Although we dont really have a pre-65 division around my area I would like to continue on with that theme. not sure wat to choose i was thinking B40 or Ariel 500 as that is wat the pre 65 experts ride in europe, i don't want a 2stroke (i can't ride Hi there. If only more people would do the same instead of getting hooked up on the idea of having to use mega expensive aftermarket parts because it is the "thing to do". I'd like to build a trials bike out of it. Poachers Pre 65 Trial at South Elkington. NEB clutch. Keighley Gate Trial 08 05 11. MX bars Pre 65 and 74. If you would prefer to a set of forms posted out to you, please send a large, stamped, self-addressed envelope to Mrs. So I purchased a set of mz forks for my bsa c15 trials bike I'm building problem is my 35mm yokes are just that 35mm an the mz forks are 34. Reader's Gallery. Pre-65 Bikes ; Bantam Trials Silencer. 00 will get you a 9 volt battery Mega Horn on ebay that you just strap to the bars. Think a lot of confusion is caused because people look at piccys and see bikes that appear to have a D7 fitted when we all know most of the competitive stuff is really D14/4 with D7 side covers etc made to look "period" like everything in Pre65 Poachers pre 65 trial at Syston Lincolnshire. au Bikes covered range from AJS rigid machines of the 1950's up to the Honda XL series of the 1980's with many generic pre-65 trials parts and fittings. By 23 posts; Report; Share; Posted March 3, 2010. this is with the four plate clutch and before the 1970-1 five plate conversion. Share More sharing options Followers 1. Bike Specific Forums ; Pre-65 Bikes ; Building A Bantam For Pay And Play Building A Bantam For Pay And Play. The bigger events (such as mid-ohio pictured here) will get a handfull of bikes out and attract a bit of attention however when ridden! Hi Guys I am new to this forum i have a cub frame and modified subframe i am basically building a cub rolling chassis with all cub parts then putting a bantam engine in as that is all i have spare any bantam engine modifications or tiger cub parts that i should buy though they Pre-65 Bikes ; Bantam And Cub Trials Modifications Pre 65 trials bikes these days bear little or no relation to the way such sporting bikes actually were pre 1965, The sad thing is Bill never actually got to ride the bike in a trial, after spending ages building his confidence up and getting ready to try, I know this is many years late, but I have just started to use a computer and can now troll through Cub stuff, to check, see and learn prior art---- Someone has used longer spokes, and this has resulted in a cross-4 instead of the original cross-3 spoke pattern, which therefore has the two spokes coming out of the opposite ends of the same slot being almost in a straight Pre-65 Bikes ; Bantam Engine Rebuild Bantam Engine Rebuild By owen, April 2, 2013 in Pre-65 Bikes. Pre-65 Bikes ; Frame Builder Frame Builder. net. Considering building as Pre 65 Bike from scratch for the 2018 season. The frame and other parts have been shot blast and powder coated Moorland Blue so now ready to build up with whatever engine you choose. As collyolly says the difference in the day that made pre-65 necessary was the virtually instant tightening of the sections, with impossible turns you couldn't even push an old British bike round, let alone ride it - and I don't see anything that has changed - except that it has got worse - so now you have people building a competitive twinshock trials bike, with British Why would that be an issue ? If you want to build a bike from parts which are all from 1964 or before then nobody will stop you and parts are freely available. Share I just don't know whether it is worth the hassle/work building a trials bantam, seems to me competing in pre65 trials is very expensive Pre-65 Bikes ; Triumph Twin Engine Specification For Trifield Triumph Twin Engine Specification For Trifield. By swooshdave, April 29, 2016 in Pre-65 Bikes. By triumph, December 13, 2011 in Pre-65 Bikes. Probably sell the chrome bits Ariel HT500 Competition pre 65 Trials . 3k views; woody; June 22 A pair of hubs and the forks modified assuming you supply the forks and the Norton sliders wont leave you any change from £800 then you need the wheels building up spindles making and of course fork yokes and dont A modern trials bike has a wheelbase of around 1320mm (52") Pre-65 Trials build. The plan is to use it for some My B40 is a proper thumper, but it's relatively heavy hence why I'm building a lighter bike. By jeffwarwick, August 4, 2010 in Pre-65 Bikes. I am pleased to be able to report that apart from Deryk having an inflated opinion of his worth to the pre 65 trials community that many people offered me free advice and assistance without any strings on this issue and While you can buy your trials bike, you could also build one. Design criteria, material thoughts, production ideas. Just build a bike and ride it in what class and where you can. Thanks. Share More sharing options Followers 0. Share I was thinking about fitting the oil filter kit sitting on my work bench to increase the capacity or even fit a new trials/alloy oil tank. Based Southampton, Hampshire, UK. If the question is how much will it cost me to buy a built trials bike the answer is 1500 to 5000 Bikes covered range from AJS rigid machines of the 1950's up to the Honda XL series of the 1980's with many generic pre-65 trials parts and fittings. Classic Bike Imports Ltd. Scorpion Sportsters March 1963. This bike has completed the Scottish pre 65 by the previous owner. Some club's allow full Tubeless some don't. Reply to this topic; Start new topic; Recommended Posts. By john b, August 20, 2016 in Pre-65 Bikes. BSA B25 Engine assembly video. My main problem is what forks to use,I want to run it in Pre 65's in Scotland(not the 2 day) but would like to know if I could use trail bike forks and yokes(XL,TS) or does it have to be std. Adventure Camera's; Allan Jefferies XL 250 Honda. john b. 2 With that information I pulled the trigger on a 1978 home market 350cc Enfield to build into an AHRMA Premier Heavyweight trials bike. To build the bikes we have made many contacts within the manufacturing and wholesale companies in the industry enabling us to price a great range of products at a competitive rate. Posted March 4, 2016. Good luck with it. db133 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:48 am I looked and looked for information but found very little. By old trials fanatic, January 9, 2011 in There has been pictures of later bike so to back up the pre 65 claim lets see some evidence. And even some of the older ones. I doubt Jim will take long to supply one he may have one in stock. Best have a daylight one for trials. As for being busy over the winter months you can say that again as I'm also There are the odd one or two actual pre 65 bikes still being used in trials that are as they were in the 1960s. The seat has clearly been hand-fabricated in its day - we are told that this was once a just a piece of sponge tied on with string for use round the yard! So we opt for a simple, pre-65 style saddle which was hand made by Viking Motorcycle Seats. Hi All, I'm looking to buy a pre 65 trials bike to one day compete in the Scottish and other pre 65 events. Pre-65 Bikes ; Triumph Tiger Cub Trials Triumph Tiger Cub Trials. The centre had a bigger Pre-65 Bikes ; Bsa B40 Trials Frames Bsa B40 Trials Frames. In particular we can provide all the Make sure your bike complies with the eligibility guidelines and, wherever possible, use genuine Pre ’65 parts and ensure that any modifications do not take it out-with the "parameters" of a “Pre ’65 design”. By bantworm, December 15, 2007 in Pre-65 Bikes. It's in Mr Weedy's workshop at the moment having the awkward bits done (exhaust system made up, wheels and forks grafted on). By eiger, October 16, 2004 in Pre-65 Bikes. . Might as well make a start then! What bike should you use? For classic trials, there are three main kinds of bikes: Pre-65, Twin Shock, and Britshock. Share More sharing options Classictrial repair and sale classic, pre 65, twin shock, Honda and Fantic Trials bikes. Any one interested I now live and work in Marbella Spain and run a transport firm called Pre-65 Bikes; All Activity; Home Pre-65 Bikes ; Sprite Trials Bikes Sprite Trials Bikes. £395 . hope its of use. ) miller footrests and brackets domino slow throttle wide rear pre 65 trials motorcycle frames ajs arial bsa parts for frames footrests. The attached image is of the first version of his Bantam taken at the Reliance but it constantly changed week by week, Jim also rode a BSA B40 and Royal Enfield Bullet 350 throughout the midlands area and Very sorry to say i have been forced to face facts that i may not in the coming years find time to build any further Mick Andrews James trials frames, thus i have desided to place the frame jig and all fittings up for sale and i felt that there was no better place than to Note. or building state of the art bikes. I intend to build a pre 65 trials bike using a 1959 Francis Barnett frame I have the original wheels and was going to use the original hubs but they are iron Pre-65 Bikes ; The perenial alloy hubs The perenial alloy hubs. Reply to this topic; Start new topic; old trials fanatic. £19,995. It’s rocking longer gas shocks in the rear, a big rear sprocket for low speed work, Domino slow-turn throttle, electronic ignition, an aluminum tank painted in classic black and gold, and much more. Thanks for the reply. Explore the rich heritage of trials riding amidst Scotland's stunning landscapes. Edited April 21, 2015 by old trials fanatic. By bikestat, March 4, 2014 in Pre-65 Bikes. Post by SPRIDDLER » Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:19 pm. This is a 'top of the range 'Pre-65 Trials Weapon' with very few original Cub parts remaining. It too had Villiers sprite, motoplat ignition, wide ratio box. This should be fun Email meHi Folks, I had the first Sprite trials bike which consisted of parts taken of my 1993 Cotton (ENGINE ETC) which i bought from Franks shop in Handsworth,I rode this bike in 1995 SSDT fitted with front forks wheel mudgard borowed for the week of Roy Bevis. It should come in at about £500 including the new tyres. This bike is a sammy miller built machine with all of his goodies fitted. Ron Spencer Victoria mrgor@ Considering building as Pre 65 Bike from scratch for the 2018 season. ok i have a 1963 francis barnet falcon with i think a 197 9e engine. Denise was away that weekend, so I had plenty of time to myself. That is another bike I want to build. OTF, I wasnt having a go,just trying to encourage people to build bikes and enjoy them,from scratch or an old nail - whatever. I'm waiting for the frame at the minute so I will have to wait for chain clearance measurements. Experience the vintage thrill of the Scottish Pre-65 Trial - a classic motorcycle event steeped in tradition and skill. try him. It was a basket case, and i had intended to build a pre-unit trials bike out of it. Stav Bikes. By jms61uk, June 11, 2012 in think the pistons are from the triumph tiger cub. 10 miles. The frame is standard, Pre-65 Bikes ; BSA C15 Trials Project BSA C15 Trials Project. Today, he specializes in one-off titanium exhaust systems, wheel hubs, and many other parts — as well as full custom builds. Looks and sound! Unfortuneately here in the colonies pre-65 heavyweight bikes are a bit rare in vintage competition vs the later twin shockers. The man who Down to the detail . The Bantam motor is in fact a very flexible and torquey unit if put together right & Correct Amal settings for a Trials BSA C15 engine. Reply to this topic; Start new topic; Just building up a cheap D1 rigid for trials. Wondering what is out there that might fill the bill. It will be difficult to build without at least modifying the Bikes covered range from AJS rigid machines of the 1950's up to the Honda XL series of the 1980's with many generic pre-65 trials parts and fittings. Pre-65 Bikes ; Tiger Cub New Build Oil Leaks! Tiger Cub New Build Oil Leaks! By brucey, June 26, 2011 in Pre-65 Bikes. Or do you simply use the whole new slider turned down with the old triumph slider acting as a cover, with the bottom milled off. Just build a bike as economically in the spirit of the 60's as you can and ride it. Join us for a journey back in time on two wheels. Reply Just depends if you want to build a bike as a period piece or you want to build one to ride and be competitive on? Just wondering how many people stick to Bantam forks when doing a Pre 65 Bantam trials build, are they usable? what mods if any? or is the C15 fork conversion a better bet? Pre-65 Bikes; All Activity; Home ; Bike Specific Forums ; Pre-65 Bikes ; Bantam Forks? Bantam Forks? By fish06, July 21, 2009 in Pre-65 Bikes. Pics would answer alot of questions. Words and pics: Tim Britton . Handlebars Pre 65. sure a number of bikes on every trial do not. By deputy dawg, April 11, 2013 in Pre-65 Bikes. Ready to build your own trials bike. The humble Bantam-clearly derived from the DKW RT125 acquired by the Allies as reparation after WW2 – was first produced as a 125 rigid model (the D1) for “export only” in June ’48, then introduced to the home market at the Earls Court show in Nov ’48. Alongside our wheel building service, we supply security bolts, rims, tape, tubes and tyres. By 08colin, November 29, 2008 in building a jimmy with one of these engines. Ossa forks and Montesa yokes or even Ossa ones will do as will wheels. but I think your bike will look very close to what I want to build. The video was recorded with a Lumix S5m2X lens "The Bantam Trials Saga", written by John Cuff. Otter On The Cheap. Pvl ignition with no weight ts 185 piston standard clutch. One Step A Head; Out On A BSA Prototype; Painting Your Otter Frame. I dont know about you but a big part of P65/Twinshock trials is seeing The project was to build a trials bike as cheap as possible, just using a mig welder. I would strongly recommend putting a PVL electronic ignition system on and get rid of the old points and mechanical advance/retard mechanism. Hi all. Anne Gordon, Secretary Pre’65 Scottish Trial, Fairshiels, Blackshiels, Pathhead, Midlothian, EH37 5SX. It is now a few years since the production has started again to fulfil orders for the so called Pre 65 Classic trials bike market. Reply to this topic; Start new topic; these work well in a trials bike if set up as section swept suggests. Anyone who has ridden at or been to either the Pre-65 Scottish or our CDB Pre-65 Bikes; All Activity; Home ; Bike Specific Forums ; Pre-65 Bikes ; pre 65 frame pre 65 frame. I my enthusiasm I can't wait for the reply from the owners club as I have applied for membership. you'd be ok as at normal trials pressure the tubeless tyres sit Pre-65 Bikes ; Villiers Clutch Villiers Clutch. if the question is how much will it cost to build a bike then the answer is anywhere between 1 and 5k. By john b, March 4, 2016 in Pre-65 Bikes. you d want a later engine ( square for fashion not for function), a well sorted amal concentric carb, nicely set up heavyweight cub or c15 forks, new rear shocks ( any new trials shocks would be better than std. The sad thing is Bill never actually got to ride the bike in a trial, after spending ages building his confidence up and getting ready to try, he was posted abroad. The coated piston seems to be settling in well,on building the engine it turned over very smoothly,I measured the bore and there was less than 1/2 a thou difference anywhere I checked it. Asking price. Home; Controls; Engines; Exhausts; Frames; Panels+Tanks; About Us; As used to build bike pictured on our About Us page. Pre-65 Bikes ; Mz Forks Not Quite 35Mm Mz Forks Not Quite 35Mm The entries are open for the 2016 Pre’65 Scottish Trial which takes place on Friday 29th and Saturday 30th April, 2016. Pre-65 Bikes ; Bantam Frame Kits Bantam Frame Kits. A BSA B44 Foster Otter Trials bike build. old trials fanatic. ? Pat Slinn A Working Life with Sport Bikes. Ariel short stroke 500cc engine with a Mick Dickinson alloy barrel. Phil Ives The Tale Of The Otter; Pre 65 Rules. i agree with deryk about the long lever i adjust the advance on my panther outfit with its lucas sr1 modifyed to manual use and vary it in the sections, the same on my road outfit and my special hillclinb panther solo , all fitted with the good old lucas sr1 magnetos Norman Trials Bikes B2 to B4; OK Let's Build A BSA Bantam Trials Bike. Few Pre-65 bikes are as they came out of the factory – if they ever were. Reply to this topic; I just saw a movie on you tube part way through theres a clip of someone building a sprite in his shed. By bultoboy, March 8, 2013 in Pre-65 Bikes. Share Thanks Big John, I'm sure my Dad has a copy of Don Morley's 'Classic British Trials Bikes' so I'll have a look. BSA bantam competition footpegs. £30 for a front Aqueduct Classics is a non profit making Classic Trials organisation, based around the North East Wales borders. Wondering if I'd be better served weight Hi everyone, I've just bought my first AMC bike which is an AJS 16 that's been built as a trials (style) bike. By chappo, June 20 4 replies; 2. old trials Poachers Pre 65 Classic Trials Club are proud to co-ordinate the Championship. Hello I am building a BSA Bantam D1 plunger '53 with a friend into a trials project ready for the 2012 Bath Classic Motorcycle Club calender and need a bit of help and advise, Pre-65 Bikes ; BSA BANTAM D1 PLUNGER TRIALS QUESTIONS? BSA BANTAM D1 PLUNGER TRIALS QUESTIONS? By owen, December 17, 2011 in Pre-65 Bikes. Took me ages to modify the Faber frame to make it acceptable. Bit like most Pre 65 bikes really just assemble what comes to hand or As the Pre-65 Scottish Trial was conceived as a way to celebrate the traditional trials motorcycles falling in the Pre-1965 era of the Scottish Six Days Trial, it could be expected the winners of the two-day would reflect the winners of the six-day trial. Regards Charlie. OR is there still a supply of Dunlop trials universals ? regards to all, Pat. Pre-65: As the name suggests, these are based around bikes with engines and some other components made before 1965. The other was owned by Tom Seward, this had a BSA B40 engine, Toms son is still building trials bikes and Collin Dommett owns one. By prelit , I have been collecting parts and advice for a planned Bantam build over the last year or so and Jim was a Or count your own time as a cost into building it Hello, im building a BSA Bantam D1 rigid trials bike and im at the stage of welding on some modern fold-able foot pegs to it. Pre-65 Bikes ; Villiers 8E Engined James Villiers 8E Engined James. Newbie; Members; 456 posts; Pre-65 Bikes ; Bantam Build Questions Bantam Build Questions. By teamferret, October 20, 2018 in Pre-65 Bikes. £15. Pre-65 Bikes ; Bantam Trials Build Questions Bantam Trials Build Questions. By dhs10, January 4, 2014 in Pre-65 Bikes. Worcestershire. Text Courtesy TC. Who says modern pre 65 bikes aren’t authentic! To satisfy the powers that be in the Scottish Pre 65 trial at the beginning of May every year, Howard from Faber Frames came up with a Mk 3 version of his "Otter" frame. By Fanny B, September 22, 2019 in Pre-65 Bikes. By broony, September 8, 2011 in Pre-65 Bikes. You can spend an awful amount of time buying and modifying a Bantam frame, like I did. I have searched a few websites over here and cant really Correct Amal settings for a Trials BSA C15 engine. ( 187 cc big bore ) And are = Pre 65 Rules = 11/9/2021 v1 The following rules are designed to enable organisers to cater for the two predominant types of motorcycle currently being entered into competitive modern Pre-65 trials events; that being original bikes and modified bikes, with the minimum of This lowers the 2nd and 3rd gears then a big jump up to the top gear I have used this for 18 years and the bike has done many pre 65 Scottish events (around 8). The light at some of the section made it difficult with the vide Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Cotton 250 - Pre 65 - Trials Bike at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products! Sammy Millers beautifully turned out Ariel HT5 trials bike & Bultaco sidecar units going around the pre 65 trials demo course at CMM classic bike show Stafford What are the best light, with 'good' brakes, pre 65 hubs for 36 spoke, 21" and 18" rims please? I'd like to avoid the heavy BHC hubs. A lot of the mods used in current pre 65 trials aren`t just there to cheat, they are used by the majority of riders because they work and dont alter the appearance too much. A fair bit has been done to it but there is also a lot I need to sort out and improve upon. By bassman, January 13, 2011 in Pre-65 Bikes. Photo Pre-65 Bikes ; Greeves Rear Shocks Greeves Rear Shocks. However, don't confuse them with the Bullet Trials bikes from India which are really road bikes with knobbly tyres. I plan on getting the bike running and evaluate the condition of the motor and transmission before striping the bike down. The bike has only ever broke down once in all of the years me and my daughters have abused it. I also read the Majesty ones. cheers. A good selection of bikes at the trial from Ariels to Velocette. TRIUMPH TIGER CUB AMAL PREMIER CARB SETTINGS. a machine being as light as possible, with as much ground clearance as practical and A Triumph Twin is the New In thing. Seven Best Builds Ariel; Seven Best Builds AJS; Seven Best Builds BSA; I am preparing a1955 James in trials trim for this years Beamish Trophy Trial. You will also see a great range of aluminium trials mudguards Was up the shed tonight and done a dry build on the rolling chassis,seems like I will have to increase the ground clearance as its quite low about 9",not very good. SPECIFICATION AS FOLLOWS ——-Modified Triumph T/A Series Frame with custom built rear subframe, giving approximately 52″ wheelbase and 12″ Ground Hi Ben, The triumph twins are great fun to ride, but like any other pre-65 bike, only as long as the engine runs cleanly without spitting back, and stalling. They are ideal for the Northants Club trial type sections. I was going to build up the worn pads on the lever and holes with weld and grind/drill back but I don't think the spline Hi Guy's, Who makes a front and rear trials tyre that (4. Bantams are possibly the most highly modified of the "Pre65" LOL trials bikes and when done make very good trials bikes however as with all P65 machines double check the rules first with the clubs you will be riding with. The bike has done 720 miles since new and looks to be in good shape. Jim was always a gentleman and a 100% trials enthusiast, a good rider but always helpful to others whether it be with bike or riding advice. Ron Spencer Victoria mrgor@connexus. I want a period looking bike with as much BSA bits as possible. i am concidering building a pre 65 trials frame wise ect do i go drayton or wasp or is there any other choices out there ? any Hi all, i have a friend who is without internet access, and is currently building a Bantam, he now has a rolling chassis, and the next stage of the build will the motor, without having to take a second mortgauge out what would be the best mods he could do to the motor. Must have a working horn. Discover the nostalgia, camaraderie, and competitive spirit that define this renowned gathering of riders and enthusiasts. Pre-65 Bikes; All Activity; Home ; Bike Specific Forums ; Pre-65 Bikes ; Twin power. I have two Triumph Tiger Cubs Pre-65 Bikes ; Triumph Tiger Cub Triumph Tiger Cub. The class is mostly British. I see how the riders in UK etc build pre-65 bikes with custom frames etc, and, for ME, I sort of don't get that, I've been working on a '51 18S for about 6 months. Just purchased yet another project off Ebay. 00x18 & 2. Tubeless Rims. Classic trials offer much leeway for a bike builder. Must it be british made only, frames and suspension A modern trials bike has a wheelbase of around 1320mm (52") and a head angle around 26 deg, though unspecified by manufacturers. im currently in the process of building a trick greeves scottish and was wondering the best rear shocks to use and had the most success with. To me anyway . Once you have all this paper work get the bike MOT'd on it's frame number if it's over 3 years old. Patrick Elliott Honda one Off; Pete Wright's Foster Otter. Sammy Miller Products >> Specialising in Pre 65 and Twin Shock performance and replacement parts - UK. BSA B25 / C15 TRIALS PRE 65 MINT BIKE OFFERS PX BANTAM B40. Diary/ Log of the design, build and maintenance of a pre-65 trials replica Francis Barnett for the 2011 season. By ben3010, November 19, 2011 in old trials fanatic. Hi Peter. 1 I also own a Bantam which I want to convert to mild off / on road use nothing too serious ( I would buy a trials bike for that ) and daylight mot. Share More sharing options There are the odd one or two actual pre 65 bikes still being used in trials that are as they were in the 1960s. I also own an 'Armac' Cub (pictured at the 2019 Greybeards Trial) which I built from parts supplied by Duncan McDonald of Renthal Bars, Pace Mountain Bikes and Pre-65 Trials fame. 4" front rim OK for a modern trials tyre or does it have to be 1. On Type Approval put "Exempt Trials Motorcycle". I'm refurbishing a 1964 DOT and would like to know what best to look for? Also, is a 21x1. When fitted to cars the clutch might have had Capasco plates which are entirely made from As is de rigueur for Pre-65 Trials, the modifications were extensive. In the afternoon Malcolm set up some Pre 65 sections which we spent the rest of the day practicing on, only moving on to the next after we had each cleared the course. Pre-65 Bikes ; Bantam New Build Bantam New Build. It has a Faber frame which carries the oila wd engine with proper trials gearing fitted. or period. I have several Pre-65 Bikes ; Bsa Bantam Conversion Bsa Bantam Conversion. That's interesting, I'm currently building an Otter C15. Share Because if you are trying to hide Jap forks as you call them inside British sliders you are not building a British Pre 70 trials bike, you are building a "Britshock" So why go to the expense of trying to disguise Spot on Woody,i built my "pre 65" bike using the same kind of parts as yours . Air Filter for Amal Carbs. By glenn r, September 3, 2008 in Pre-65 Bikes. Share So Willie what you are saying is that any one building up a Classic British trials bike,should build it to your rules?? this is my 2013 winter project, i'm building a pre65 enfield 350 trials using parts i've collected,the frame is 1958 and the engine i belive, is earlier the basics for a competant cub that is eligble for 99% of pre 65 clubs are actually fairly simple. Share Newbie; Members; 20 posts; Report; Share; Posted December 15, 2007. Many thanks for the info, I'm slowly building the engine and it has a GB gear cluster in it so is wide ratio, I would mainly use the bike for pre 65 trials, it would be nice to do the odd classic road trial but will be mainly trials sections. Good Beautiful bikes. It was described as an AJS/Matchless 350cc in trials trim for restoration. No modern (70's/80's) japanese or Pre-65 Bikes ; Tubeless Rims. Home; Controls; Engines; Exhausts; Frames; Panels+Tanks; About Us; As used to build bike pictured on our About Us Pre-65 Bikes; All Activity; Home ; Bike Specific Forums ; Pre-65 Bikes ; Cub electronic ignition Cub electronic ignition. hi. The original base was carefully aqua blasted to create a unison finish underneath. Chains. Considering to create a pre 65 bike (winter (s) project idea) but I'd to know the basic rules that apply to building a machine. This frame although mostly in the spirit of the original frame now had added engine under-run rails, and a bent spine frame, more like a BSA C15 but of bigger section. The bike you suggest would also have to enter at least as a "special" at Yorkshire Classic events to name but one club. Reply to this topic if i was building a B40 again i'd definately go for the Mills option. We Take a Look at the current Crop of Winning Trials machines. Colmore Cup Centenary Revisitment Event. By ronwright, that your name was Rupert Ratio for example and you had written a book collating loads of useful information about building and running BSA unit singles. This might seem a strange thing to say but my neighbour brought round the barrels off his pre unit Bonneville for me to remove the tappet blocks. Hi. To suit rigid and plunger frames. Or you could buy one of the Dray Pre-65 Bikes ; Trick Front Forks Trick Front Forks. That probably won't happen, now that i've found all the right tinwork The only reference I have for the Cornish Harry Foster Otters are Tony Harris who owned , the first one built ,that was a Triumph engined bike. Lancashire. Owen. "Best Trials Photo Ever" ~~~~~ Dave Roland reaches New Heights. I would like to convert a Triumph Tiger Cub for trials. S. We specialise in pre 65 trials parts for BSA & Triumph Unit single models. heard njb and betor shocks are good for pre65 but will like some guidence from the experts what a great looking PROPER pre 65 trialer, all thats missing is the chair . looking at where the pegs should go and the original ones are way too far forward, ive looked at my TY175 and they are now (after they have been moved back to improve balance aka Sammy miller type bolt on brackets) 25% from the rear Pre-65 Bikes ; Ajs 16 Trials Project Ajs 16 Trials Project. 75x21) that most resembles a Dunlop "universal" trials tyre of yonks ago ?. Secondly, although I created the pre-65 definition and helped greatly in the successful spawning of a new (at the time) and now very active branch of the sport one has to realise that to have actually ridden in a trial before 1965, a rider would need to have been born before 1949, in other words, he would definitely be a pensioner now - and there aren't that if your building a bike and the first question your asking is how much will it be worth then the answer is not to proceed any further. Steve Saunders Scottish Pre 65 trials winning "Tri field". Alloy fuel Tanks Methods of construction; I still enjoy my motorcycling mostly touring but have competed in Pre 65 trials until fairly recently on a 350cc Enfield / Saracen special. The five plate did away with the flange on the centre, and another plate was sat into the basket. The bike you see here is one of a pair Dan and his father built as their first ground-up Bike Specific Forums ; Pre-65 Bikes ; Building A Cub Front End Building A Cub Front End. 7 the options at the minute are shim out the gap using 6 tho shim wrapped round the stancions or bore out the yokes and turn a split bush. Share checking with the clubs you intend riding with first re eligibility but you have probably done that already before building the bike. Since Steve Saunders, and Rob Bowyer's, wins in the Scottish two day Classic trial, the Triumph twin engined unit trial machine seems to be the way forward, with other bikes winning Bike Specific Forums ; Pre-65 Bikes ; Trials Cub Forks Trials Cub Forks. By dannybee, November 28, 2016 in Pre-65 Bikes. THE ULTIMATE PRE 65/ VINTAGE TRIALS BIKE, Here is a rare opportunity to own the ultimate classic trials bike ” HANDMADE IN YORKSHIRE ” And using only the best materials available with no expense spared. We have a huge range of Triumph Tiger Cub Spares, BSA Bantam Spares and lots of BSA B25, B44 and B50 parts. BVM Moto Trial Sport >> On-line Classic & MonoShock Trials Shop - UK WES Alloy Trials Silencers for Classic Trials Motorcycles: Yamaha TY175: Std Rear: Yamaha TY175: All in One Main: Yamaha TY175: 2 Silencer System: Yamaha TY250: Std Rear Pre-65 Bikes ; Big Bore Villiers Engine Units Big Bore Villiers Engine Units. Some may say it defeats the object of riding a 'pre-65' machine but as a Design Engineer, I love the Pre-65 Bikes ; Advice on a BSA B40 project I know some people take the modifications really quite far and get quite technical/competitive with Pre-65 bikes, but I just trial for fun and so I want to keep it fairly standard. click on photos to supersize them. So do any of you people have any information on the history of the bike and the Classic Bike Hub gives you news, views, features and reviews from the UK’s biggest classic motorcycle magazines. BSA GENUINE A10S SPITFIRE SCRAMBLER 1962 MINT! ONO PX TRIALS. Sunday 8 May 2011. In particular we can provide all the parts needed to build a Bantam or AMC trials bike rolling chassis, both springer and rigid. gidlfivosaymfvvzzxtiwymhsmkssnkgoqhwtaeekizhmuqohaijhv